Open Source ERP and CRM

blg · Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 2

Hello,

I’m using tinyerp-server-setup-4.0.3.exe and tinyerp-client-setup-4.0.3.1.exe under Windows XP.

I’m very happy about it. Great job.

Now, I want to install POS module.

I don’t find the doc concerning it.

I have unzip pos module in bin/addons of the serve rand with the client in admin/ update modules.

I get this message: : ‘ No module named pos’

Thanks in advance for your help.

Benoit

jardous · Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Czech Republic

Hi... the POS module is not distributed as source files - just binary files (pyc). This may be a big compatibility problem.

The only solution is to force Fabien to publish sources - not just pyc files.

The POS module is announced as GPL, but this is not GPL!

srltab · Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 9

I solved this problem (re)writing __init__.py file.
import pos
import sale
import purchase
import account
import account_tax_include
import wizard
import report

NOTE to tiny staff:
Please publish sources of pos module.
Thanks
Simone

melodie · Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 20 Location: South France

Actually, on sunday 9th, there is no file such as __init__.py in the pos package.

htgoebel · Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 101

To pour oil on troubled water: I just decompyled the files. They are now available at http://www.crazy-compilers.com/decompyle/examples.html.
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fabien · Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:54 am Post subject:

Hello,

Thank you but it seems that both links the same in your page.

About the modules published without sources.

That was an error of our first attempt to release our unpublished modules. We will publish these sources at the same time of the 4.2.0 package. (no garantee, but I hope we will have finnish everything with 10 days)

The main reason is that we have about 150 modules to upload and I prefer not loosing too much time releasing them manually. We have to create new automated releasing and testing scripts for this.

The second reason is that these modules have to be used with the 4.2.0 version. And I don't think they will work with the current stable release.

The third reason is that we'd like to test them one by one before releasing and it takes time.

As a summary, our quality team is first focusing on releasing the next stable 4.2.0, and them will focus on all modules.

htgoebel · Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 101

xlyz · Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 61

fabien

put all the modules with sources in a big tarball and leak it Wink

.

than make a post linking to it with a BIG DISCLAIMER that basically says that they are broken and will break everything and you will give no assistance whatsoever.

worst consequence: you will loose 15 minutes of your time

best: better relation with the community, and possibily some patch

eSquat · Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 82 Location: France

[quote="melodie"]The documentation of a free software also should be free : why should english reading people get a manual that's half written in french, and french reading people get a manual half written in english, allowing only both languages' readers to get it all about the meaning ?[/quote]

Well, at least you have the freedom to learn languages. Let me construct a case: Image the documentation were wholly available, but in French only - would you complain that the documentation is not free ? With tongue-in-cheek: More people can make *some* use of the 50/50-documentation. Fewer people would have access to it if this were in, say, French only.

I agree that free software should have free documentation. But in all seriousness: language has *NOTHING* to do with that.
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norbert_ · Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 64 Location: Australia

Following up on the modules.
The issue that not all modules are available for the release candidates is quite frustrating. I have an Australian and US business and opted for TinyERP. With rc2 and rc3 the Australian and US accounting modules are not available. So, there is not much I can test really.

We've setup TinyERP 4.1.1. But there I encountered accounting errors. I was hoping to test this issue with rc1-rc3, trial and learn the software in praxis oriented circumstances. But respective modules are not available. So for the time being the server sits idle until the stable release.

Quite a waste really. Any issues or potential bugs I could have reported.
My 5c worth.

Cheers
Norbert

stefanr · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 3

Hi,

we have been bit by this as well. It seems that Tiny does not understand the GPL. You cannot offer a binary module for download and say it is GPL without offering the source code upon request.

If Tiny and its partners do hold all the associated copyrights, they could make the binary module available under some sort of Tiny Shared Source license while the code is not yet published.

Otherwise, Tiny needs to release the source.

Regards,
Stefan.

eSquat · Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 82 Location: France

Open Source should go with Open Docs. Over there in the French forum was the question where the announced French version of the Tiny Book is. From what can be understood, there is a password protected version in the wiki. No password == No documentation.

Open Source is a great thing. No question. But it's not all. Some may know the Obfuscated C Contest or Perl's JAPHs - there you have, as with TinyERP, all the source code. But unless you are *VERY* bright, this advances you not a millimeter. Software, especially of a certain complexity, without documentation is often useless to the mere mortal. Calling such software 'free software' or 'open source' degrades to a marketing gimmick.

Did you know that Microsoft is an Open Source company ?

Did you know that Tiny is an Open Source company ?

Let me repeat a link from the user 'melodie' further up: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-doc.html - The GNU position on Free Software and Free Documentation
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fabien · Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject:

The password of the french doc has been set to 'tiny'. But it's better to use the english one which is more advanced.